Editing Project:Village pump (technical) (section)

== Full width of page ==

Hi, in browsing in Vector 2022 mode when I click hide contents on the left, I want the article to span the whole width of the page but it leaves an empty gap. I don't see the point in it. Why can't I shrink the left side and broaden out the page? That seems the best option from shrinking the contents.♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 21:26, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

:Limiting the display width is deemed to be the best way. See [[mw:Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements/Features/Limiting_content_width#Goals_and_motivation|Limiting content width]] There are several (many?) user scripts to fix this width issue, but yes, it really would be better if full width was just a standard [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|Skin preference]].  — [[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] <sup>[[User talk:GhostInTheMachine|talk to me]]</sup> 23:07, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
::We have a gadget, but it '''still''' isn't getting that space back.  I left a note in [[phab:T307901]]; if anyone has a clue (and hopefully not a lengthy javascript hack) input would be welcome.  Here is a random article, in vector-2022, with the "wide" gadget on: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Kilkenny_Senior_Hurling_Championship?useskin=vector-2022&withgadget=wide-vector-2022>.  Notice, that even with both the sidebar and TOC collapse, that space is still wasted over there. That space does helpfully get deleted at widths under 1000px as a hint. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 23:26, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
:::Thanks. Where was the place to contact the site developers again? It goes the full width on pages without a table of contents but the table of contents on the left disrupts the shrinking of the side which is rather silly. Ensuring that you can broaden out to the page to the full width should be a development priority. ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 09:59, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
:::: The need for a ''full width option'' is explicitly not being addressed. See [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Update_on_Vector_2022|the other VP page]] — ''Issues that are not part of the Desktop Improvements project'' — [[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] <sup>[[User talk:GhostInTheMachine|talk to me]]</sup> 10:07, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:GhostInTheMachine|GhostInTheMachine]] I understand that the skin devs don't care about building that, which is why it will fall on to other volunteers. — [[User:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">xaosflux</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Xaosflux|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]</sup> 13:01, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
:@all above: Go to {{myprefs|Appearance}}, select "MonoBook" (it's first in the list) and save. Goodbye to most problems. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] &#x1f339; ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:22, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
::That's been my default for most of the 16 years I've been here  :-). Even Monobook doesn't have the full page width option, with the task bar down the left. I can't believe that on small devices maximising the full width of the page for reading isn't a development priority!! It would be one of the first things I would look into if trying to maximise the usability of Wikipedia on smaller devices! ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 08:04, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
:::I see a number of others have complained about it at [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop_Improvements here]! I agree with them that the wide vector 2022 version should be default or at least an option in preferences instead of having to use java script. ♦ [[User talk:Dr. Blofeld|<span style="font-variant:small-caps;color:#aba67e">''Dr. Blofeld''</span>]] 08:31, 13 August 2022 (UTC)